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		<title>ROFLCon Panel &#8211; Internet Fame</title>
		<link>http://www.openparenthesis.org/2008/04/25/roflcon-panel-internet-fame</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weinberger also (see previous post) stayed to moderate a panel on what it means to be internet famous. Panel description: YOU CAN GET PAID FOR THIS?: MAKING SOME BUCKS (W20: Sala del Puerto Rico): How do you make money? Are you making lots of money? Has all that money corrupted you? How about now? Are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weinberger also (see previous post) stayed to moderate a panel on what it means to be internet famous. </p>
<p>Panel description:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>YOU CAN GET PAID FOR THIS?: MAKING SOME BUCKS (W20: Sala del Puerto Rico):</strong> How do you make money? Are you making lots of money? Has all that money corrupted you? How about now? Are you a fluke are you generalizable? What are some other ways the rest of us can make money? Please?</p>
<p><em>Moderator: </em>David Weinberger</p>
<p><em>Panelists: </em>Kyle Macdonald (One Red Paperclip), Joe Mathelete (Joe Mathelete Explains Marmaduke), Ian Spector (Chuck Norris Facts), Andy Ochiltree (JibJab.com), Andrew Baron (Rocketboom), Alex Tew (The Million Dollar Homepage)</p>
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<p>My rough rough notes:<br />
(Mostly these notes don&#8217;t reflect how good Weinberger is as a moderator with an unpredictable crowd, including the panelists &#8211; he did a great job getting them to answer questions without getting in the way of their natural humor and randomness.)</p>
<p>DW: Who are you, and how do you make money? </p>
<p>Maramaduke Explained &#8211; it&#8217;s remarkable I haven&#8217;t gotten sued, Make money on google ads, have sold t-shirts</p>
<p>JibJab &#8211; this land, the bush kerry collage animation. Make money on merchandize, sendables, some sponsored things with big brands. </p>
<p>The Chuck Norris fact generator. We tried calendars, some merchandise (though we can&#8217;t use his face / likeness). They also have Vin Deisel Facts, Mr. T facts. </p>
<p>One red paper clip guy &#8211; traded up to a house in Seattle. </p>
<p>Andrew Barron &#8211; rocket boom. </p>
<p>The million dollar web page guy who sold pixels. No ideas for recurring revenue. </p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
DW &#8211; in some ways learning by example is flawed. What do you guys think &#8211; is there anything people can learn from your success?</p>
<p>jibjab &#8211; greg and evan, who started it, got lucky in some ways but were prepared to take advantage of it. </p>
<p>one red paperclip &#8211; kind of fell into it backwards. </p>
<p>marmaduke guy &#8211; I&#8217;m 100% fluke. Never had any idea it would happen. Someone emailed one day &#8211; you&#8217;re on boingboing and I said what&#8217;s boing boing?</p>
<p>one red paperclip guy &#8211; I really am a fluke, totally &#8211; no way to know it was going to be that big. There&#8217;s a lot of things n the web you can&#8217;t predict &#8211; you got to be in it to win it. </p>
<p>rocketbook &#8211; we&#8217;re very dependent on the web. we get everything we discuss from the web, from recommendations bottom up not centralized top down. </p>
<p>DW: Do you see your million dollar web page as some kind of commentary on advertising, and what people are willing to pay for? </p>
<p>Million dollar web page guy: No. </p>
<p>DW: Do you feel any sense of connection to Chuck Norris at this point?</p>
<p>Chuck Norris Facts guy: No. I was always under the impression that the jokes are funny no matter who&#8217;se name you put there. plus he&#8217;s suing me. (4q.cc)</p>
<p>DW &#8211; I know you can&#8217;t say that, but obviously you&#8217;ve helped his career and the fact that he&#8217;s suing you means he&#8217;s got his head up his ass. </p>
<p>DW &#8211; how do you stay webby, while being courted by and profiting from the mainstream media?</p>
<p>jibjab &#8211; open dialogue with your viewers/readers/audience. Listening to real feedback from real users &#8211; makes all the difference. Critical to deciding what to do next &#8211; these folks helped make us, let&#8217;s listen to what they have to say. </p>
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		<title>There is no shelf</title>
		<link>http://www.openparenthesis.org/2007/10/18/there-is-no-shelf</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via David Weinberger&#8217;s blog comes this video, by Mike Wesch (he of The Machine is Us/ing Us), which explains the same point Weinberger&#8217;s making in Everything is Miscellaneous: It&#8217;s licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License, so spread it freely. I didn&#8217;t care for the fit of the music to the video in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via <a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/everything_is_miscellaneous_ex.html">David Weinberger&#8217;s blog</a> comes this video, by <a href="http://youtube.com/user/mwesch">Mike Wesch</a> (he of <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g&#038;feature=PlayList&#038;p=B4CED27DFD894F14&#038;index=0">The Machine is Us/ing Us</a>), which explains the same point Weinberger&#8217;s making in <a href="http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/">Everything is Miscellaneous</a>:</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License, so spread it freely. I didn&#8217;t care for the fit of the music to the video in this case, but it communicates equally well without sound. </p>
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